Friday, March 7, 2014

Must I obtain a student visa if I study abroad in Greece for more than 90 days or can it be avoided?

Must I obtain a student visa if I study abroad in Greece for more than 90 days or can it be avoided?
The policy for student visas in Greece is that if you are in the country for more than 90 days you must obtain a visa. However, I am planning on being there for 4 months and during that time I'd like to travel to Egypt, Turkey, and Italy (EU). Can I go to an EU or Non EU country and get my passport stamped during that time to avoid paying $500 for a visa? Because technically I am not in Greece for a duration longer than 90 days. Is there anyone who is more educated on the subject or knows for sure?
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The 90 days duration is (a) the max amount of days allowed on a Schengen visa or (b) the max amount of days that certain nationalities can travel freely within the Schengen zone without a visa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_visa#Schengen_visa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program However firstly, Greece is not part of the Visa Waiver program anyway, and even both this and the Schengen visa, is for tourist travel only. As a student enrolling officially then you would have a different immigration status and would no longer be a "tourist". Therefore neither the Schengen visa or Visa Waiver program would be applicable Getting a stamp from a non-Schengen zone country does not "re-start" the 90 days (that is an urban myth perpetuated and one that people still fall foul of). You must be outside of the Schengen zone for a further 90 days to be eligable for entry again with the visa waiver program anyway. So if you have a Schengen visa then this will not be issued for more than 90 days and a lot of questions will be asked if you apply for two visa's in short succession. Also you may be require to show proof of being a tourist if this is what you have declared on the applicatioin (e.g. hotel bills etc) Therefore you are better off being honest and paying the $500 if you want to study in Greece. The fine (and subsequent ban on re-entry) if caught would likely be more than €500 from what I have read about this subject.
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Official US Embassy report : The U.S. Government remains deeply concerned about the heightened threat of terrorist attacks against U.S. citizens and interests abroad. Like other countries that are members of the Schengen Agreement for free cross-border movement, Greece’s open borders with its European neighbors allow the possibility of terrorist groups entering/exiting the country with anonymity. As the first entry point into Schengen from points south and east, Greece’s long coastline and many islands also heighten the possibility that foreign-based terrorists might try to exploit Greece’s borders. Domestic terrorist organizations such as Revolutionary Struggle and “Sect of Revolutionaries” have become increasingly active against both domestic and foreign targets in Greece. Recent attacks and attempted attacks have included the use of Molotov cocktails (gasoline bombs), small arms and rifle fire, and improvised explosive devices, the largest being a 50-kilo car bomb which failed to detonate before the police arrived. The Greek police forces, other Greek governmental agencies, private American and Greek businesses, and the United States Embassy have been attacked in the last three years. Recent actions indicate that the perpetrators are indiscriminate. The risk of “being in the wrong place at the wrong time” in the event of a terrorist action is a concern for residents and visitors. U.S. tourists or residents in Greece should remain vigilant, exercise caution, and monitor local developments. Some current terrorist organizations are aligned with the ideology of the older Marxist terrorist group November 17 (N17) which targeted Greek businessmen and officials, as well as officials from NATO countries in Greece, from the mid-1970s until the early part of this decade. N17 terrorists murdered 23 people, including five U.S. Government employees. Strikes and demonstrations are a regular occurrence. Greece is a stable democracy and these activities for the most part are orderly and lawful. However, a wave of incidents started when a teenager was shot and killed in an encounter with the police in December 2008. Incidents occurred throughout Greece, but the primary sources of violence were in Athens and Thessaloniki, Protestors there engaged in violent confrontations with the police and carried out destructive vandalism and rioting in localized areas, some of which are areas frequented by tourists, injuring numerous police officers. Riot control procedures often include the use of tear gas. Visitors should keep abreast of news about demonstrations from local news sources and hotel security. When there are demonstrations, visitors should be aware of and avoid places where demonstrators frequently congregate, such as the Polytechnic University area, Exarchia, Omonia, and Syntagma Squares in Athens, and Aristotle Square in Thessaloniki. The Omonia and Exharchia areas of Athens are at particular risk for crime and politically-motivated violence; U.S. Embassy personnel and their families have been urged strongly to avoid these areas between 9 pm and dawn.

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